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A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774-1875

Farrand's Records --JOURNAL Friday August 24. 1787.


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The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787 [Farrand's Records, Volume 2]
JOURNAL Friday August 24. 1787.

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The honorable Mr Livingston, from the Committee of eleven to whom were referred the two remaining clauses of the 4th section, and the and 6th sections of the 7 article, informed the House that the Committee were prepared to report. The report was then delivered in at the Secretary's table, was once read, and is as follows.

"Strike out so much of the 4th section of the 7th article as "was referred to the Committee and insert "The migration "or importation of such persons as the several States now "existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited "by the Legislature prior to the year 1800--but a Tax or "Duty may be imposed on such migration or importation at a "rate not exceeding the average of the Duties laid on Imports."

"The 5th section to remain as in the report"

"The 6th section to be stricken out"

It was moved and seconded to reconsider the 1st clause 1st sect. 7 article

which passed in the affirmative

and to-morrow was assigned for the reconsideration [Ayes--7; noes 2.]

It was moved and seconded to postpone the consideration of the 2nd and 3rd sections 9 article.

which passed in the negative. [Ayes--3; noes 7.]

It was moved and seconded to strike out the 2nd and 3rd sections of the 9th article

which passed in the affirmative [Ayes--8; noes-- 2.]

Separate questions being taken on the 1st 2nd and 3rd clauses of the 1st section -- 10th article, as reported,

they passed in the affirmative.


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It was moved and seconded to strike out the word "Legislature" and to insert the word "People" in the 1st section 10th article.

which passed in the negative [Ayes--2; noes--9.]

It was moved and seconded to insert the word "joint" before the word "ballot" in the 1st section of the 10th article

which passed in the affirmative [Ayes--7; noes--4.]

It was moved and seconded to add after the word "Legislature" in the 1st section 10th article the words "each State having one vote"

which passed in the negative. [Ayes--5; noes--6.]

It was moved and seconded to insert after the word "Legislature" in the 1st sect. of the 10 article the words "to which election a majority of the votes of the Members present shall be required"

which passed in the affirmative [Ayes 10; noes--1.]

On the question to agree to the following clause

"and in case the numbers for the two highest in votes "should be equal, then the President of the Senate shall have "an additional casting voice"

it passed in the negative.

It was moved and seconded to agree to the following amendment to the first sect. of the 10th article

"shall be chosen by electors to be chosen by the People of the several States"

which passed in the negative. [Ayes--5; noes--6.]

It was moved and seconded to postpone the consideration of the two last clauses of the 1st sect. 10 article

which passed in the negative

It was moved and seconded to refer the two last clauses of the 1st sect. 10 article. to a committee of a Member from each State.

which passed in the negative. [Ayes--5; noes--5; divided -- 1.]

On the question to agree to the following clause

"shall be chosen by electors"

it passed in the negative [Ayes--4; noes--4; divided -- 2.]

The consideration of the remaining clauses of the 1st section


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10 article was postponed till to-morrow on the request of the Deputies of the State of New Jersey.

On the question to transpose the word "information" and to insert it after the word "Legislature" in the first clause of the 2 sect. 10 article

it passed in the affirmative

It was moved and seconded to strike out the words "he may" and to insert the word "and" before the word "recommend" in the second clause of the 2 sect. 10 article

which passed in the affirmative

It was moved and seconded to insert the word "and" after the word "occasions" in the 2 sect. 10 article;

which passed in the affirmative

It was moved and seconded to insert the word "shall" before the words "think proper" 2 sect. 10 article.

which passed in the affirmative

It was moved and seconded to strike out the words "officers" and to insert the words "to offices" after the word "appoint" in the 2 sect. of the 10 article

which passed in the affirmative

It was moved and seconded to insert the words "or by law" after the word "constitution" in the 2nd section of the 10th article

which passed in the negative. [Ayes-- 1; noes--9.]

It was moved and seconded to strike out the words "and shall "appoint to offices in all cases not otherwise provided for by "this Constitution" and to insert the following

"and shall appoint to all offices established by this Constitution, "except in cases herein otherwise provided for, and "to all offices which may here after be created by law."

which passed in the affirmative [Ayes--6; noes--4.]1

It was moved and seconded to add the following clause to the last amendment

[Note 1: 1 Vote 363, Detail of Ayes and Noes, which notes that it was "Mr. Dickinson's amendment".]

"except where by Law the appointment shall be vested in "the2 Executives of the several States"

[Note 2: 2 Crossed out "legislatures or", this striking out was an amendment. See Madison's record below.]


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which passed in the negative3

[Note 3: 3 See below note 12.]

It was moved and seconded to agree to the following order

"That the order respecting the adjournment at four be repealed, and that in future the House assemble at ten and adjourn at three

which passed in the affirmative [Ayes--10; noes--0.]

The House adjourned

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