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	Interviewer	- —-rn-----	SaniieiS.Ta~1or  — .—~-~-„ -
	Person interviewed	~ose~phSamue1Ba~tt
	—	1221 Wright Avenue ‚ LIttle Rock ‚ Arkansas A~e?2



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	“My mother had Indian In her. ~he would ficht. She was the pet of the people. When she was out, the pateroles would ~h1p her because she didn‘t have a pass, She has showed me scars that were on her even till the day that she died0 She was whipped because she was out without a pase. She could have had a pass any tiras ±~or the a8king, but she wa~ too proud to ask. She never wanted to do tbin~$ by permission.


Birth

	“I was born in 1864. I was born right here in I~llas County. Some of the most prominent people in this state came from there. I was born on Thursday, in the morn1n~ at three o‘clock, May the twelfth. My x~iother haß told me that so often, I have lt rrieiaorized,
	~	Persistence of Slave Customs

	“While I was a slave and was born close to the end of the Civil Jar,

I remember seeing many of the soldiers down here. I remember x~uoh of the

treatment ßiven to the slaves. I used to say ‘master‘ myself in my day, We

had to do that till after ‚ 69 or ‚ 70. 1 remember the time when I COUldn‘ t

~o nowhere without a8kint~ the ‚ white folk8 . ~ I wasn‘ t a slave then but I

Couldn‘t go off without asking the white people. I didn‘t know no better.

	“I have known the time in the southern part of this state when it you wanted to dive ~n entertainment you would have to ask the white fOlks0