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learn that a race cannot be estimated by other races – by anything else but 
their own ideals.
“The younger generation is off on a tangent. They’ll have to hit something
before they stop.
“The salvation of our people -- of all people—white and colored, is
leadership. We’ve got to have vision and try to give the people vision.
Not to live for ourselves but for all. The present generation is selfish.
The life should flow out and as it flows out it makes room for more life. If
It does not flow out, it congeals and ferments. Selfishness is just like dam-
ming a stream.
“I think Woodrow Wilson won the World War with his fourteen points of
democracy. If the people of foreign countries had not that old imperialism
sentiment, the Jew would not be where he is today.”

Interviewer’s Comment

This man is the best informed and most sensible negro I have interviewed.
In the room where I interviewed him, were a piano, a radio, many ferns, a 
wool rug, chairs, divan, and a table on which were books including a set of the
Standard History of the World. I asked if he had read the history and he re-
plied, “Not all of it but I have read the volumes pertaining to the neolithic
age.”
On the walls were several pictures and two tapestries. 
The house was a good frame one and electric current was used.