3. “I used to help old Miss Nancy make candlea for her little brasa lamp. We boiled down maple sap and zaade sugar. We made turpentine. “r don‘t know about the Nat Turner Rebellion in Virginia. We had rebellions at Helena in 187e. The white folks put the Negroes out of office • They put J. T. White in the river at Helena but I think he got out. Several wa~ killed. J. T. White was a colored sheriff In Phillips County. In Lee County it was the same way. The Republican party would lect them and the Democratic party rou8t them out of office. “In 1872 I went to school 2* miles to Arkansas Post to a white teacher. I went four months. Her name was Mrs. Rolling. My white folks started me and I could spell to ‘Baker‘ in the Blue Back Speller bei‘ore I started to school. That is the only book I ever had at school. I learned to read in the Bible next. “In 1872 locust was numerous. We had four diseases to break out: whooping cough, measles, smallpox; and Qho~7‘~broke out again. They vaccinated for smallpox, first I ever heard of it. They took matter out of one persona arm and put it in two dozen peoples arma. It killed out the ~nallpox. “In 1873 I saw a big forest fire. It seemed like prairie and forest tires broke out often. “When I growed up and run with boys my color I got wicked. We gambled and drunk whiskey, then I seen how I was departing frcm good raising. I changed. I stopped sociating with bad company. The Lord hailed me in wide open day time and told me my better life was pleasing in his sight. I heard him. I didn‘t see nuthin‘. I was called upon to teach a Sunday School class. Three months I was Sunday School leader0