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	“My father‘s mother and father fell to Little 3~abe Madden. They never did come to Alabama but I have heard my tatzier ~aIk about them 80 much. My father‘s father was named Harry. HIS last name must have been Madden.

	“My grandfather on my mother‘s side was named Charlie Hail, He married into the Madden family. ~e belonged to the Halls before he married, Old man Charl is ‚ his master, had a plantation that wean ‚ t far from the Madden‘ s plazitation. In those days, it you met a girl and tell. in love with her, you could git a pass and go to see her if you wanted to. You didn‘t have to be

on the same plantation at all. And you could marry her and go to see her, and have children by her even though you belonged to different masters. The Liaddens never did buy Hall. Grandma never would change her name to Hall. He stayed at my house after we ~rried, stayed with me sometimes, and stayed with his other son sœietimea.

	“My mother was born a Madden0 She ~as born right at Madden ‚ s place. When grandma rnarried Hall, like it is now, she would have been called Hall. ~t she was born a Madden and stayed Madden and never did change to her

husband ‚ s naine • So my mother was born a Madden although her father‘ s n~e

was Hall.

	“I don‘t know what sort o~ man Mabe was, and I only know what my parents said about John. They said he was a good man and I have to say what they said. He didn‘t let nobody impose on his niggers. Pateroles dId git after them and bring them in with the hounds, but when they got in, that Settled it. Madden never would allow white people to beat on his niggers,

	“They tried to git my daddy out so that they could whip him, but they CoUldn‘ t catch hini. They shot him-P-the pateroles did--but he whipped them. ~y daddy was a coon. I mean he was a good mai~