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	“I haven‘t had much education. I went as far as the eighth grade. The biggest edu~cation~ I have had was in the Conference.

	“1 joined the Little i~OCk General Conference at Texarkana in 1914. was the Viethodi st Episcopal ‚ north ‚ and I was ordained as a deacon and an elder by white bishops. Th~ in 1930 I joined the African ~ethodiet.

	“By trade I am a carpenter and bricklayer. I served an apprentice under my father and under a German contractor. -

	‘TI used to be called the best negro journeyman carpenter between iAonroe, Louisiana and Little Rock, Arkansas.

	HI made qaite a success in my trade. I have a couple ci United States Patent Rights. One is a brick mold ho1dir~ ten bricks and used to make bricks of concrete. The other is a s1idin~ door. (See attached drawings)

	“I was In the mercantile business two and one-half years in Sevier (ounty. I sold that because it was too confining and returned to the carpenter‘s trade. I still practice my trade some now.

	“1 have not had to ask help from anyone. I have helpel my home and I sentj my daughter to Fiak University where she ~hi1e there she met a youxig man and they were later married Chicago. They own their home and are doing well.

	“Iii my work in the ministry I am trying to teach my people to have higher ideals. ~Ye have to bring our race to that high ideal of race integrity. I am trying to keep the negro from thinking he is hated by the upper class of white people. ‘~hat the negro needs is self—consciousness to the extent that he aspires to the higher principles in order to stand on a“i equal plane In attainment but not in a social way.

	“At present, the negro‘s ithals are too low for him to visualize the evils Involved in race ~ixtare. He neecis to be lifted in his Own estimation and
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