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Journals of the Continental Congress --SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1777


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Journals of the Continental Congress, 1774-1789
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1777

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A memorial from Edward West, was read:

Ordered, That it be referred to the executive council of the State of Pensylvania.

Resolved, That an extract of General Washington's letter of the 11th inst. relative to cloathing, be forthwith sent to the states of Massachusetts bay, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pensylvania, Maryland, and Virginia, who are requested to send, without delay, to the army under his command, the blankets and other articles of cloathing


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that may be collected, agreeably to a recommendation of Congress of the 16 day of October last, to answer the pressing demands of the army previous to the arrival of supplies of cloathing expected by Congress; and that duplicate receipts be taken for the same from the cloathier general or his deputies respectively.

A copy of the confederation being made out, and sundry small verbal amendments preserving made in the diction, without altering the sense, the same was agreed to, and is as follows:

Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union,1 between the States of

[Note 1: 1 In the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 47, folios 41 and 51, are two copies of the Articles of Confederation in the writing of Charles Thomson. The first is, with the exception of the few words written on the margin by Duane, entirely in the writing of Thomson, and is without endorsement. The second copy is also in Thomson's writing, but it has on the first page a marginal direction to the printer, as to numbering the paragraphs, written by Duane, and the last paragraph is in his writing. The marginal captions of the articles are also in another hand. As the sheets bear the finger marks of the printer, they are undoubtedly the set sent to the printer [Francis Bailey]. They are endorsed: "Articles of Confederation made out for the press--as agreed to by Congress, Novr. 15, 1777."
I have used the first copy (which appears to be the earlier in time) in the first column, adding in a note any differences found in the second copy, except mere erasures of words, or where the change is not explained by a transfer from one article to another.]

First motion from New York.3

[Note 3: 3 In writing of Charles Thomson.]

For deciding all Disputes or Differences, which may arise betwixt between any two or more States in the Confederacy concerning Boundaries or Jurisdiction Commissioners shall be


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appointed in Con by the United States in Congress assembled by the Ballot of such State or or States as have no Claim with Respect to Boundaries or Jurisdiction or with any State of with either of the States, betwixt between which the Matter in Contest, is to be determined, or have Claims with respect to Boundaries, or Jurisdiction founded upon Similar Principles with those upon which the Claim or Claims of any either of the States, betwixt whom the a Controversy subsists, may be grounded, provided always, (that no Person shall be capable of being a Commissioner for this Purpose, nor who is an Inhabitant of, either or may be have landed Property in either of the States between which the Matter in Controversy subsists), and that they be pointed the said Commissioners be appointed the nine States or who may be Inhabitants of, or have landed Property in any State having a Claim with Respect to Boundary, or Jurisdiction grounded upon similar Principles as that upon which the Claim or Claims of either of the States betwixt in Controversy may be founded, and with respect [to] any Dispute, or Difference, which may arise betwixt any two or more States the United States on any other Cause the united States in Congress assembled shall have full Power to decide the same [so as that no state be deprived of territory for the benefit of the united States].1

[Note 1: 1 The words in brackets were added in the writing of Charles Thomson. Thomson has written the word "withdrawn" after the paragraph. This motion, in the writing of William Duer, is in the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 47, folio 99.
On a loose sheet (folio 99-4) is found the following in the writing of Charles Thomson: "provided that for deciding disputes and differences now subsisting or that may hereafter arise between two or more states concerning boundaries or jurisdictions." On the same sheet he has written: "I would propose to pass the printed paragraph as it stands. adding Mr. Lee's motion, viz: So as no State be deprived &c. and follow it with one of the amendment as a proviso, as above." On the reverse of the same sheet James Duane has written: "Provided that every Commissioner so to be appointed, shall before he sits in Judgement, take a solemn Oath in open Court, to be administered by one of the Judges of the Supreme or Superior Court of the State where the Causes shall be tried, truly and impartially to hear and determine the matter in Question according to evidence; and such determination shall be final and conclusive between the States in Contention and all claiming under them."]

2 Motion from New York instead of the first withdrawn2

[Note 2: 2 In the writing of Charles Thomson.]

"deciding, 'or, at the Request of any State in Controversy with another, appointing by Ballott of States not interested in the Dispute, impartial and disinterested Judges, or Commissioners upon Oath to decide' all Disputes, and Differences now subsisting, or that hereafter


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may arise between two or more States, concerning Boundaries, Jurisdiction or any other Cause whatsoever 'provided that the Judges, or Commrs so to be appointedballotted for be not less in Number than nine, and that each of the States in controversy have a right peremptorily to challenge two out of that Number; and further that no State be deprived of Territory for the Benefit of the United States.rsquo;

"N. B: What lines are marked with Quotations, are proposed Amendments to the printed Report of the Committee."1

[Note 1: 1 This paper, in the writing of William Duer, is in the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 47, folio 105.]

Motion from Connecticut.

For deciding disputes or differences now subsisting or which may hereafter arise between any two or more States, concerning boundaries or jurisdiction, or any other causes whatever, [so as that no state be deprived of territory for the benefit of the united states,] a Court shall be constituted consisting of one of the Judges of the Supreme Court of judicature in each State which is not interested [directly or indirectly] in the point in controversy, to be designated [chosen] by let fairly drawn [ballot] by the assembly of the United States [in Congress assembled,] or the Council of States, on application of the parties or either of them; any seven [five] of said Judges who may be present to be a quorum who shall be duly sworn to hear and determine the cause impartially agreeable [according] to the right of the parties [and the evidence that shall be before them] according to their best skill and judgment, and having rendered Judgment therein shall transmit the record thereof with the evidence to the Assembly of the United States, which shall be conclusive between the parties. and carried into execution by order of said Assembly in such manner as the Nature of the case may require. Provided nevertheless that if either party be agrieved with the Judgment, and shall shew to the satisfaction of said Assembly that there was any unfairness in the trial or that justice has not been done, said Assembly may grant a new trial in manner aforesaid, by other Judges of said Supreme Courts designated by lot chosen by ballot as aforesaid; and if the second judgment shall be in affirmance of the first, it shall be final: but if otherwise, a third trial and no more may be granted by said Assembly, if either party be agrieved and shew sufficient reasons therefor [and with respect to any dispute or difference which may arise betwixt any two or more states


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on any other cause the united states in Congress assembled shall have full power to decide the same]; and all controveries concerning Titles of Lands wherein the parties claim by Grants under different colonies or Governments, may also be determined by a Court constituted as aforesaid either by original process or appeal, the Plaintiff or appellant giving sufficient Bond with Surety to answer to the adverse party Damage and Cost in case he make does not his plea good support his title.1

[Note 1: 1 This motion, in the writing of Roger Sherman, is in the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 47, folio 107. The words in brackets were inserted by Charles Thomson.]

Ordered, That the committee appointed to revise and arrange the articles ∥of confederation,∥ have three hundred copies printed and lodged with the secretary, to be subject to the future orders of Congress; and that the articles of confederation, as now agreed to, be entered on the journal.2

[Note 2: 2 "The Articles were printed and returned to the president on Friday, November 28, who had them tied in bundles, and gave 18 to the delegates of each State, reserving the rest for himself; so that none came into the Secretary's office. C. T." Note by Charles Thomson.]

Adjourned to 4 o'Clock.

Four o'Clock, p.m.

A letter, of the 14, from G. Bryan, vice president of the council of Pensylvania, to the delegates of that State in Congress, together with sundry papers relative to Indian depredations on the western frontiers, was laid before Congress and read.3

[Note 3: 3 This letter and enclosures are in the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 69, I, folios 433.]

Ordered, That they be referred to a committee of three; the members chosen, Mr. [Daniel] Roberdeau, Mr. [John] Harvie and Mr. [Cornelius] Harnett.

Ordered, That Mr. R[ichard] H[enry] Lee have leave of absence for the recovery of his health.


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Resolved, That a committee of three be appointed to collect and digest the late useful discoveries for making molasses and spirits from the juice of corn stalks, and report a plan for communicating the said discoveries to the inhabitants of the several states.

The members chosen, Mr. [Elbridge] Gerry, Mr. [Richard] Law and Mr. [Daniel] Roberdeau.

Resolved, That a copy of the letter from J. Bradford, dated Boston, 16 October, 1777, to the Secret Committee, be transmitted to the cloathier general, to the quarter master general, and to the Board of War; that the cloathier general, without delay, appoint a deputy in each State, if he hath not already made such appointments; that the cloth for soldiers' cloathing, mentioned in the said letter to be imported into Bedford for account of Congress, be delivered to the cloathier general, or his order; the bales of tents to the quarter master general or his order; and that the Board of War give directions respecting the arms mentioned in the said letter; that the receipts taken on the delivery, be forthwith transmitted to the Commercial Committee; that the cloathier general be directed immediately to give orders to his deputy for the State of Rhode Island, to receive the said cloth for soldiers' cloathing, and procure the making up the same into cloaths there or elsewhere, as soon as may be, and to forward them with the utmost despatch to General Washington's army; that the cloathier general, also write to the governor and council for the State of Rhode Island, requesting them, in case the person appointed by him as his deputy should decline acting, to appoint a suitable person for that purpose, and forwarding the same as above directed; and the said governor and council are requested to make such appointment accordingly, and to give every necessary aid to the above important business.


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The committee appointed to consider the applications of foreign officers, &c., having had under consideration the memorials of Chevalier Crenis,1 Monsieur Dorset, and Chevalier de la Colombe, report:

[Note 1: 1 A memorial from Crenis is in the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 41, II, folio 37.]

That although the committee are sensible of the zeal and good intentions of the Chevalier Crenis and Monsieur Dorset in their wishes to serve the United States, yet when they reflect upon the circumstances of the American army, and consider that the number of officers now in commission are greatly disproportionate to the soldiers to be commanded, they cannot venture to recommend the said Chevalier Crenis as lieutenant colonel and Monsieur Dorset as major in the service of the United States, which ranks are respectively desired by the gentlemen aforesaid:2

[Note 2: 2 This paragraph read in the original report: "are so greatly disproportionate to the men to be commanded, that it will be proper during the course of this winter to dismiss a considerable number of the American officers as supernumerary, &c."]

That considering the expences these gentlemen have incurred, and the inability stated by Monsieur Dorset of returning to his own country, they submit it to the wisdom of Congress, whether it may not be expedient to furnish the necessary aid for this purpose.

That with regard to the Chevalier de la Colombe, for whom the Marquis de la Fayette requests a captain's commission in the American service, your committee think the same may be granted: [as the Chevalier may be usefully employed ill the quality of captain in the family of the Marquis during his service in the American service.]3

[Note 3: 3 The sentence in brackets was omitted in the printed resolutions. This report, in the writing of Richard Henry Lee, is in the Papers of the Continental Congress, No. 41, II, folio 33.]


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The said report being read, on the question put to agree to the first paragraph, resolved in the affimative.

The second paragraph was taken into consideration, and a motion being made to grant Monsr. Dorset a sum to defray his expences to France, and the question put.

Passed in the negative.

The third paragraph was read, whereupon,

Resolved, That a captain's commission be granted to the Chevalier de la Colombe.

∥The several matters to this day referred, being postponed,∥

Adjourned to 10 o'Clock on Monday.

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